Post by roselitwack on Aug 5, 2009 14:23:07 GMT -5
Hi to all, Rivka-- this is a great idea, and I've been meaning to join for a while! I heard you are looking to develop JONA further, please let me know if there is anything I could participate in. Anyway, I am just wondering if any other nurses struggle with keeping shabbos and working in healthcare. I am a first year nurse, and this already has become somewhat of an issue. I had to turn down at least one job offer because the director would not agree that I could have Saturdays off, and shabbos is becoming an issue at my current job as well. My director agreed when I signed on that I wouldnt have to work Saturdays, but I am realizing I really need Fridays as well because as a first year nurse, I am finding it difficult to finish all my documentation by the end of the shift. This is my first week out of orientation, but I am often on the floor till 9 at night, just completing my charts! I am scheduled for Friday this week, and I am really stressed out about completing everything before shabbat starts. I spoke to my director but she said I just need to get everything done by end of shift. And my Rabbi says that since I work in critical care I can do patient care with a shinui if absolutely neccessary, but documentation is out. . . Let me know your thoughts on this! Rose
great link, thank you Rivka Roselitwack, I can empathize with your situation, I remember Fridays, where I began my day at 3am to prepare for Shabbat so that when I finish my shift I could run home just in time for Hadlakat Narot and all was ready- but it required a certain amount of organization, multi-tasking and even asking coworkers for their help and I would return the favor on other days. Try charting during the shift and not waiting for the end of the shift to chart everything so that when you finish you only have to chart on last minute changes, Will they allow you to come early and get an early start? I promise you the work will come easier and quicker with time, have patience with yourself. Do you live far from where you work? it helps to live closer (obviously) and have a supportive family.
I'm also having problems with work and shabbat. I'm a new grad and was offered an RN position at a facility which I accepted, only to have them later tell me that I don't have the job after all because the unit director had an issue with me wanting fri and sat off. I have another interview next week, but the recruiter there didn't seem hopeful about me being able to have fri and sat off there either. I've offered to work every sun and legal holidays that don't fall on shabbat. Working fri doesn't really seem like an option except maybe in the summer when shabbas starts late but even then it seems somewhat risky if I don't finish in time or the other nurse is late. I'm just getting worried that I won't be able to get a job in a hospital at all at this rate, and I haven't even mentioned chagim to any of these places. The next interview is for a nurse residency program which starts sometime in march which probably run into pesach. Anyone have advice for me?
Shalom Beki! Welcome to nursing and welcome to the forum!
No easy advice. I would have a casual conversation with your rav, for one thing. Don't look for a p'sak; look for general understanding and guidelines. Personally (I emphasize that), I would avoid working on Shabbat and relying on leniencies and permissions. The reason isn't my lack of respect for the breadth of halacha and different opinions. The reason is that employers and colleagues don't usually understand the limitations, and we end up in very uncomfortable and stressful situations, and may create bad feeling at work unnecessarily.
Working on Friday may just have to happen; but there has to be clear understanding that you're out the door guaranteed to get home in time. When my wife and I both worked Fridays (but no small children at home) we got in the routine of preparing on Thursday, setting up a crockpot and bread machine Friday morning and just making it in the door on time. A few times my wife ended up parking the car somewhere a mile or more down the road and walking the rest of the way home. It was an adventure. There is still a standing joke in our house about starting Shir Hamaalot just as the other walks in the door...
Tell us more about yourself and your situation. Married? Children? Living in big city and depending on buses/subways, or smaller town and you drive? All these and other factors effect your options.
Glad to have you! I hope we'll hear more of your input.
Post by mypprincess on Jan 6, 2010 19:08:54 GMT -5
beki, welcome! I had the exact same issue as a new grad not too long ago. It took me over a year after earning my license to land a full time job because nobody would hire me if I had to be home by 4 on winter Fridays. But it was a blessing in disguise. I applied for a job as a caseworker for the mentally ill. I was worried because its a 9-5 job, and it takes over half hour to get home. When I went to the interview I was told that the job is available only if I agree to work Sundays to Thursdays because they have a problem finding nurses that are willing to work on Sundays. I "agreed" but countered that the pay has to match my willingness to come in every single Sunday. She thought a moment and offered 10000 a year over the starting salary! Its a good thing I sat when she told me that or I would have lost my balance...
Thank you so much for responding! I had an interview today for a nurse residency program at a catholic hospital and I think that it went well. At least, neither of the unit managers freaked out when I mentioned Shabbas:-) In answer to medic09's questions: I'm single and I live in Miami so I'm driving back and forth because the public transportation isn't so great here. The thing is if my shift is 7am to 7pm, it would run into candle lighting most of the time, except maybe in mid summer. For example, candlelighting is around 5:30 lately. I did get asked today if I would come in on shabbas if there was a hurricane, which might indeed be something to discuss my rav, because I don't know the answer. I just told the interviewer that if it was Friday, I would just work until candle lighting and sleep at the hospital if I had to that shabbas if they needed me to cover during a hurricane. mypprincess-thank you for sharing that. Rivka P- thank you for the bracha! you and mypprincess are right, Hashem does take care of us.
Miami should have some pretty good resources if you need info, guidance, p'sak, and backing for taking stand. I don't know the town directly, but the community seems large enough there may even be some other professionals down there who've been this route before you.
This is rediculous! I'm sure if you were a patient ill in hospital you would want someone to look after you over the weekend. You can't just leave it to all the non-Jews to do the job. If Judaism was such a perfect religion how can you just depend on others to look after 'the chosen people'. Nurses work shifts including Friday nights and Saturdays!