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Post by medic09 on Feb 3, 2011 13:59:24 GMT -5
Achot, why is it not acceptable to recognize that some students are weak, either in scholastics or clinical ability? You know better than most of us that safe and competent patient care requires educated and competent practitioners. It is intellectually dishonest for us to pretend that anyone can do this job. Granted, nursing isn't rocket science; but it does require a certain minimum intellect, scholastic ability, and practical clinical ability. Some students really are weak in one or all of those domains. Some of those weak students overcome it, and some will not or cannot. That seems to be a truthful assessment of the general reality, no?
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Post by malkieh on Feb 3, 2011 15:53:30 GMT -5
one of the students I was actually afraid if she would get back in. I had her in two of my clinical sites, and she was simply not up to snuff when it came to patient safety.. We were all really scared, and she leaned heavily on most of us for help. For the sake of our group I am grateful that she did not make it through, maybe she will get another chance. But it also did not help that english was not her first language, btw there are alot in our group that english is not their first language and they had common sense for patient care.
She is extremely intelligent, and had all A's in theory.. but clinicals were scary, and that is what she did not pass in remediation.
The other student also extremely intelligent, but when push comes to crunch they also became very flaky.
You cannot be flaky, I was saying for the sake of our group we want to be strong coming back.
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Post by malkieh on Feb 3, 2011 15:57:02 GMT -5
yes I worked really hard in remediation... But in all honesty if not for the clinical instructor with something up her A**, pardon my language, I would still be in nursing school.. 4 students that had her last semester, walked out.. she only had 8 students in her group. This semester, the entire group has complained that they do not want her.
You have to teach in nursing school, she observes and criticizes.. If you do something right, you get is "fine, now leave me a lone." If you know that going in, maybe you will be ok. But atleast when I had another bad instructor she gave criticism and instruction on how to do better. Not just, "that was wrong and I am very disappointed." Also, "I am here to observe not teach, that is what the skills lab is for." Which is not true, she's our clinical instructor, it's her job to instruct.
I think she's just used to observing, because she is a preceptor at her hospital for new grads.. I would be terrified of having her for a preceptorship!
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Post by achot on Feb 4, 2011 5:02:16 GMT -5
Medic All true but questionable gamesmanship as we learned from Noah's wife. I am thrilled that Malkie passed and am sure she deserved to but have lived enough to know that a little bit of luck can make the difference between success and failure- even in things that I am good at! Shabbat Shalom- am going to bake the Challot- for the zillionth time and I am still davening that they come out OK! :-)
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Post by bobbie613 on Feb 20, 2011 21:02:51 GMT -5
Malkieh,
Eleanor Roosevelt once said "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
When a teacher is less than kind to you, it might be helpful to think about what kind of life he or she has had that this is the best they can do for a student who needs their help; or about what sort of difficult things this person might be dealing with in the moment.
Try to take a deep breath and to separate ourself a little from the instructor's comments.
Achot and Rivka have wise advise.
Remember, the locus of control is always within you with the help of HaShem. Do not allow yourself to be buffetted this way and that. Be centered. Breathe deeply. Remember your end goal. And, when you are done and have passed your NCLEX, you will be kind to those whom you will, G-d willing, teach. Bobbie
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Post by mypprincess on Feb 27, 2011 16:39:22 GMT -5
bobbie, that comment from Eleaner Roosevelt is something that should be taught in kindergarten. Thanks, its great.
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Post by bobbie613 on Feb 27, 2011 17:32:15 GMT -5
It would make a great screen saver, :-)
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