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Post by achot on Apr 28, 2009 8:29:26 GMT -5
At what point am I supposed to support a jewish coworker if they are not working up to par or are doing things that could be a chilul Hashem, I am trying to help a new coworker and since she doesnt read the social map well, she keeps stepping in it. I talk to her all the time and try to help from all ends, its just getting harder...and at the expense of my professional work, I feel like I have to babysit her work to ensure there wont be backlash!!
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Post by medic09 on Apr 28, 2009 9:07:05 GMT -5
Try breaking it down into 'what are the conflicting issues/values?' What mitzvot or mussar princples are involved on either side of the balance?
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Post by achot on Apr 28, 2009 13:05:26 GMT -5
It is hard to really say, without giving too much detail, we are talking about a young girl with a difficult background who is trying to turn her life around and keep this CNA job, she isn't assertive with the pts and doesn't do all her baths claiming the pt refused (probably true) so I m trying to help her understand what she must do if the pt refuses etc, when we work the same shift I have to continuously redirect her. She recently asked a single male CNA if she can use his phone and now is crying as the staff are saying that she has a crush on hm and they are dating (she swears not true)...She tried to help another CNA and the CNA threw it back in her face saying she didn;t want help and she should stick to her own daled amos... One unit made a birthday party and were short disposable plates, she volunteered some from her unit and the DON was angry as she shouldn't be leaving her unit and spending time on other units, she swears she was passing through on the way to the laundry room (plausable), She goes to the coke machine a lot- maybe 4 times a shift, so our DON told her to bring a bottle to keep at the nsg station to avoid all those trips. The pts mostly like her, she was brought in to cover a CNA is who is giving birth any day and the staff is worried that she will be instead of her permanently even though we have assured them that we respect the law that says we must allow the new mother to go back to her exact job and we will send her replacement to another unit. I told the new CNA that the place is like a soap opera but we have our good points too...
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Post by Rivka P on Apr 28, 2009 16:23:26 GMT -5
sigh. female drama. the who's going out with who thing doesn't end with high school does it? I think nurses get so used to talking about others when giving report that they forget about the rules in the real world and cannot keep their mouths shut.
I don't really know if I have any good advice for you, but I wanted to put in my 2 cents.
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Post by medic09 on Apr 28, 2009 19:17:45 GMT -5
Achot, I sympathize with your position. I could not do what you do.
Your first post presented this as a dilemna? So, what's the dilemna? What values are in conflict? Are there identifiable mitzvot, halachot, or mussar principles involved? What are they, and how do they interact?
May Hashem bless us all by the merit of our k'doshim whose memories we mark today, including several of my colleagues in arms and haverim from the beit midrash. Hashem yikom damam.
May all Am Yisrael have a blessed Yom HaAtzmaut, and may the whole world see the light of Hashem's presence and be blessed through Am Yisrael in Eretz Yisrael by the light of Torat Yisrael.
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Post by achot on Apr 30, 2009 1:20:44 GMT -5
Rivka, I disagree with you about the nurses forgetting the rules in the real world- I wouldn't generalize about nurses, teachers, bookkeepers or lawyer!!! Most of my nurses dont gossip, but the CNA's....esp those who feel that she doesn't pull her weight- would love to see her replaced, unfortunately finding good staff is hard. This is the first instance in our building in the 4 years that I am here that such rumors are flying.
Medic,The dilemma is how much do I have to put my neck out to protect her when she doesn't get along with others. Halachically I dont want to "La'amod Al Dam Rayecha" because this job is her last chance after many problems. Do I support this girl even if it means problems with the rest of my staff . Until yesterday I didn't feel that my pts were involved but that all changed.
Yesterday she argued nastily with one of my Tzadikot of a nurse who was trying to help her, then she crossed the line and met with an arab worker at the back of the dark building at 2am alone!! She claims it was to bring him a set of keys for the unit that she forgot to leave at the end of her evening shift. WHy the back of the building and not the front? " he asked me to" (This after I instructed her to stay away from the men in the building). SHe then continued to call this arabs cell number all night . I asked her why - since the nurse complained that her calls were disruptive to pt care- and the CNA answered she wanted to know how her pts were doing (at 3am)? She forgot things that I asked her to do yesterday and the pts told me she wasn't gentle enough. All this was too much for me, I reported it and we have to decide what to do. I have decided I cant put my neck out to support her after last nights activities- puts the facility in a bad position. May Hashem help her find her way.
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Post by medic09 on Apr 30, 2009 13:27:54 GMT -5
Achot, it sounds like you made a good effort.
As an employee, each of us has a contractual obligation to work with good conscience and in a competent manner. We also have a responsibility for patient safety, and have to be duly diligent in that regard. It sounds like you tried to give your employee a pretty fair chance. I assume you have spoken, or will speak, with her directly about the perceived problems and how they might be resolved. If she can't take advantage of that, then of course the patients' welfare has to be protected.
Her behaviour sounds distracted, maybe troubled or in some sort of trouble. Is there a way to speak with her so that she is clear on how this all looks? Of course, you may have to help her but only at the same time that you help her out the door.
It is admirable, and I think you're right, that you don't want her to lose her livelihood. That is a big consideration; but not the only one - as you've already mentioned.
I hope you find a good resolution. God bless you for trying first to have rahmanut on her.
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Post by achot on Apr 30, 2009 13:35:17 GMT -5
Of course we have spoken to her, the don, myself (adon) the unit supervisor and some coworkers, we spoke nicely and tried helping her, but... I think the best we can do for her is try to help her find a more appropriate position, we once did that for a weak, slightly retarded male ns aide, Baruch Hashem the new job as an aide for ALF was better for him than our SNF. We agreed that tomorrow we will sit and think what job she is more suited for, I truly am sorry that it didnt work out, as I said finding good help is hard.
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Post by achot on May 3, 2009 6:35:39 GMT -5
Bad unfortunately got worse( I will skip the details) , but even so - we decided to try and help her, we are moving her to another unit where she can be better supervised by this amazing nurse who has lots of patience. Please daven for her, I fear what would happen to her if we have to throw her out.
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