Malki, you all are Chabadniks, right? Did you know Rav Shlomo Yaffe there? We taught school together back when the high school was just starting up.
I worked for Rabbi Yaffe, and he was mesade kedusha at my chasuna! Chani was pregnant so they could not walk me to the chupah. He recently moved to Boston! The high school recently got a new building and has left Agudas.
I can call Misrad Habriut when I have the time, but for now I know that there is a licensing exam- given in english once a year, in hebrew twice a year (I understand other languages like Russian as well) for EVERYONE despite your license or degree, You bring your nursing license and degree ( originals plus copies) here and they check it out (You would be amazed how many forger'ers there are out there). Of course they prefer BSN's but will accept Associates Degrees as RN's but not Academic nurses... LPN's might still be accepted but they will encourage immediately finishing school. No hospital will hire LPN's , the only positions available are in nursing homes where the pay is miserable so I would suggest any LPN to finish their RN (for financial reasons alone). Its worth trying anyway, we are in such a nursing shortage, its terrible. Its better to go thru Nefesh BeNefesh for assistance in getting your license recognized here. Even if they ( Misrad Habreeut) balk, if the degree is legit and the program decent they will accept the degree, if the degree is bogus or from a not respected place, they might reject it. I would ignor any directives that start with ..."the AD degree is problematic". because if the place you learned from is accredited, they will accept it but strongly encourage you to finish your degree...If they wanted to reject it they would not use the words "problematic" but "unacceptable" . They really want to phase out the LPN and AD nurses but the nursing shortage doesn't allow for it. They even opened nursing school classes to teach Ethiopians without any prior schooling required, no bagrut or psychometry or masok (High school degree, SAT or anything...)
I think that out of necessity they will give you your license to practice nursing here if you can past the test and bring your credentials with you... I will go to MB and ask for further clarification if it is important, I do know that these things change day to day according to some persons whim...
Wow, thanks, everyone, for your replies! This is really helpful to me.
Mordechai & Achot, re marriage/other impediments (albeit worthy ones) to aliyah, thanks, I really am thinking about everything you mention, and trying to be that perfect balance of open and on track. It's something I have to tell myself that I'm pretty serious about, since everything I've done so far is toward this. Of course, there are other thing in life that I want very much too.
Achot, that information about the LPNs & Ethiopian programs is really helpful! I will certainly bring that up with the Misrad haBriut. Could you tell me what an "academic" nurse is?
I was in touch with NBN last year when I was thinking of staying in Israel stam without doing my progam in the States. The contact for nursing there is (was) Sharon Millendorf and her email address is email@example.com. She had referred me to the following web pages: www.nbn.co.il/site/kb/questions/240/Nurses (certification & course requirements) and apps.nbn.org.il/cgi-bin/Education/searchRes.pl (schools in Israel offering nursing courses/degrees). All in all, the basic message I got from her was that, in the end, you really have to do business with the Misrad haBriut, which I guess makes pretty good sense. The problem I keep running into and think there's no way to resolve except to actually make aliyah and try to get my qualifications recognized directly is that I don't really know what will count for what in terms of course transfers etc. My program was essentially a BA to BSN but it wasn't called that. What most of these programs do is count most of your existing undergraduate classes toward the BSN in addition to your possibly additional prereqs. My school didn't do this and so I got a "certificate." But it was still certainly a lot of work and I am completely entitled to apply as an RN anywhere here (once I pass my boards, of course...)! So I really hope that I'll be able to there. I don't have to make a lot of money - I just want to work as a nurse in some capacity. One more note about course transfers etc: I don't know if this is absolutely necessary, but I've been saving all my class-related materials, homework/careplans etc, and especially syllabi, to show to the Misrad haBriut.
1/ academic nurse is a nurse with a BSN or more. as opposed to an achot musmechet which is a ADN nurse or an achot ma'aseet (LPN)
2/ you can make a pre-aliya trip and bring your transcripts and course descriptions with you so they can see it and tell you where you stand, as well as check out places to live, etc. ask the agency.
I dont know what you mean by "My program was essentially a BA to BSN but it wasn't called that." What degree did you graduate with? What "certificate" did you graduate with? When do you take your RN exams and where?
its good that you save your portfolio of what you learned. that might help.
achot, thanks for your response - but i'm kind of confused. you said that "they prefer BSN's but will accept Associates Degrees as RN's but not Academic nurses." but academic nurses are those w/ BSNs? (or more?) you mean they just won't accept any nursing degree/award higher than a BSN?
i graduated with a "certificate in basic nursing" (45 credits). to get into this program, the applicant had to already hold a bachelor's degree in any area as well as have taken specific science courses - which could have been done during your course of study as an undergraduate but would otherwise have had to be done on your own after (which is what i did). every BA to BSN program i looked at was like this also. pre-requisites varied slightly among the programs, but they all required a BA or BS plus your basic science pre-reqs. then, in the BA to BSN programs i looked at, they just counted the bulk of your undergraduate credits a second time (as having "transferred") toward your BSN. so, i don't have a BSN, but i took biology, chemistry, anatomy & physiology, basic & advanced statistics, microbiology, pharmocology, basic & advanced med-surg, community, pediatrics, maternity, psych, theory, and research. i met state requirements insofar as clinical hours go. i just don't know if all this will cut it for israeli standards.
rivka, what's a shaped major? i do not know what that is.
pretty much, a regular major, like bio for example, would have a set of required courses. my major was shaped for the joint program that Stern has with Johns Hopkins, so my requirements were the basic Jewish studies (actually, truncated) and the prereq.s for the nursing program. Sweet, huh?