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Shavuot
May 27, 2009 21:47:55 GMT -5
Post by medic09 on May 27, 2009 21:47:55 GMT -5
How are you all spending yom tov? After davenning tomorrow night we have folks over for my wife's famous lasagna. Then back to the beit midrash for learning. Four different shiurim for about an hour a piece by four different people, then ad hoc learning till a bit before sunrise and davenning shacharit. Unfortunately we don't have a sefer Torah; but we also don't have a minyan. Shabbat day/second day yom tov of exile we're all eating at another family's home. That already uses nearly half the kosher homes in the area! BTW, I've been listening to Dr. Yael Ziegler's podcast on Rut. I taught Tanach for quite a few years, and she's as good as anyone I've heard, especially in English. Hag Sameah all! ;D
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Shavuot
May 30, 2009 23:49:16 GMT -5
Post by achot on May 30, 2009 23:49:16 GMT -5
We rented a room in the Rova HaYehudi, experienced amazing shiurim , davened at the kotel (it was squishy), witnessed beautiful hachnasat orchim and tried to do the same,
No lasagna (outside of my husbands current diet plan) but amazing food all the same (if I say so myself). My dtr made a cheesecake worthy of the name,
My sons walked from their Yeshivot to join us and it was really nice.
Leaving after Havdalla with the multitude was a challenge but we survived.
LeShana HaBa'ah BeYerushalayim HaBnuya!!
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Shavuot
May 31, 2009 22:07:40 GMT -5
Post by Rivka P on May 31, 2009 22:07:40 GMT -5
your shul doesn't have a sefer Torah? let's get fund raising!
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Shavuot
May 31, 2009 22:09:52 GMT -5
Post by Rivka P on May 31, 2009 22:09:52 GMT -5
I made a bunch of milchig food including greek salad, blintz souffle, 3 quiches, cheesecake and ice cream pie. I learned with my sister and friend til 4 am when we went to sleep so we could make it in time to shul with the baby to hear the aseret hadibrot. Spent 2 meals with my parents and sisters. Twas a nice time.
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Shavuot
May 31, 2009 23:33:53 GMT -5
Post by achot on May 31, 2009 23:33:53 GMT -5
I just gained 16 lbs reading about your mouthwatering lunch...:-)
Glad you enjoyed, that is what the chagim are all about,
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Shavuot
Jun 2, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -5
Post by medic09 on Jun 2, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -5
your shul doesn't have a sefer Torah? let's get fund raising! No; no sefer Torah in the beit midrash. We also don't have even close to a minyan; so we've gotten by 'till now with borrowing for the occasions when a minyan seemed likely. We did have one Shabbat when a travelling school group from Massachussetts showed up for Shabbat and we had a nice minyan but no sefer Torah. Usually, though, it is the other way around - borrowed sefer Torah in anticipation and then no minyan.
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cganz1
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Post by cganz1 on Jun 3, 2009 3:17:55 GMT -5
Yikes! You really are in galus/galut! Do you ever get to go away for the chagim to daven with a minyan and hear the leining from a Torah?
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Shavuot
Jun 3, 2009 12:07:42 GMT -5
Post by medic09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:07:42 GMT -5
There are only two men and a woman who can be counted on to show up every Shabbat for davenning. So, as you can guess, going away bears the responsibility of the effect it has. We try to coordinate with the other household. My wife and I typically only go away for the s'darim on Pesah because we have a long-standing family tradition of going to her best friend for then. We used to spend the whole week with them (for years, in the US and Israel); this year we came back in the middle. We go away for an occasional Shabbat a few times a year. The nearest developed Orthodox community is Denver, about 300 miles/6 hours driving.
Leil Shavuot we started the evening with 6 men and 3 women and one baby for davenning and dinner. A few more joined us back at the beit midrash for learning. By morning we had 4 men and 1 woman for davenning.
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Shavuot
Jun 3, 2009 12:09:45 GMT -5
Post by medic09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:09:45 GMT -5
BTW, cganz: 1. I really like that smiley! Have you seen Lazer Brody's smiley with the kipa and peyot? 2. If you're not in Israel, then no matter what 'you're really in galut!' As far as the halacha is concerned, Santa Fe, Brooklyn, and Golder's Green are alike.
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Post by achot on Jun 4, 2009 1:52:52 GMT -5
Have news for you, we are all in this (Galut) together, even us "Israeli's" . We are reminded daily how much in Galut we are. ..Did you read about Dudu Topaz? .... As long as my son is risking his life in the army ,...I am in personal galut. Its all a matter of perspective... But no worries...Moshiach is on his way!!!!!
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Post by medic09 on Jun 4, 2009 8:59:38 GMT -5
Achot, I've heard such sentiments before; but I respectfully disagree with your use of the term 'galut'. That is a word that has specific meanings in Torah and culture. This new use being imposed on it, even by rabbanim, doesn't fit those meanings and is a distortion IMO.
The g'mara and commentaries talk about fasting even when the Beit Hamikdash stood and functioned. We recognize 'destruction' and 'fear' and 'tragedy' even then, sometimes; but the sages didn't call it galut unless an individual or the nation were actually displaced, as far as I know. That has deeper connotations, too; as we make distinctions regarding levels of tragedy.
Heaven forbid that we should show any ingratitude by implying that even while one is in Israel, one is in galut.
'Nuff said.
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Post by achot on Jun 5, 2009 0:08:53 GMT -5
In my (admitted) limited education, I have always been taught that we Jews are in Galut (Edom) until Hashem sends the Moshiach , it matters not where we live and fasting has nothing to do with it.
While in Galut (imposed by Hashem) I chose to live in Eretz Yisroel as a gesture to show Hashem how special his Torah and Commandments are to me. As a nurse I chose to work with (99%) Jewish patients as opposed to what I did when I lived in NY. It is amazing to me that I can use my (G-d given) knowledge and energies and talents to helping a Yid.
Galut to me is the opposite of Geula.
Living here I do not feel a complete Geula. There are many mitzvot denied to us until the Moshiach comes. We live in a state of Tuma'ah.
While it is true, we have experienced amazing miracles and continue to see these miracles every day- Halevy Vyter, we also know that if we dont follow Hashem's commands the earth will "spit us out".
I understand that you see it differently and respect that,
But that also makes me wonder that if you consider where you live to be Galut and living in Eretz Yisrael is not, how can you NOT be living here. I am sure you have good reasons and am not asking you to justify your decisions, I am sure that they are correct for your family at this time.
May Hashem bring the Geula Bimhayra BeYamaynu (amen)
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