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Post by Rivka P on Jun 3, 2008 12:45:55 GMT -5
post here about issues you have faced because of shabbos tovim and how you have or have not worked them out.
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Post by enorman on Jun 6, 2008 10:59:47 GMT -5
I just had to work 9 12 hour shifts so I could get Shavuot off without taking time. I actually think they did me a favor cuz i need to save my time for Sukkot , Rosh Hashana, and Yom Kippur. Thats is not going to be easy cuz it's kindve in the same month. In regards to Fridays and working the weekends like your supposed to every pay period, i work Saturday night and Sunday night when its my turn to do a weekend and everyone thinks thats perfectly fair. So, my hospital and union have been good to me so far.
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Post by Rivka P on Jun 6, 2008 14:44:08 GMT -5
are you normally on nights? do you ever have to work friday night?
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Post by rus on Jun 6, 2008 16:05:56 GMT -5
I work night shift 11 pm to 7 am with the first night of my 40 hour work week starting motzoi Shabbos. No Friday nights. I work on a skilled nursing unit at a retirement community that has independent living, assisted living and long term care as well as the skilled nursing section. The community is connected to a Jewish organization but not very many of the residents on our unit are from the retirement community or are Jewish. There is a local Catholic hospital that sends a lot of people over for rehab and we have some hospice patients as well. Nobody has given me a problem about requesting time off for Shabbos or Yontef. Our nurse scheduler is very good about accommodating employee requests in general. Good Shabbos to all.
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Post by chanab on Jun 6, 2008 19:21:09 GMT -5
Enorman - where do you work because the hospitals in my area seem to have trouble defining what a weekend is. Anyone else had to turn down jobs or been refused a job (depite the legality issue) because of Shabbos?
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Post by shiran on Jun 7, 2008 20:51:06 GMT -5
Yup, me (hi Mom). I was turned down by a nurse's union of a hospital, rather than the hospital itself for not being able to work shabbos. So I work at a non-unionized hospital, are very accommodating.
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Post by EstheRN on Jun 7, 2008 22:04:11 GMT -5
Hi Guys! So I just graduated from nursing school (WOHOOO!!!) and I'm looking for a job, but have actually been having a really hard time. Maimonides in Brooklyn told me they dont have any peds or OB positions (what i want) that can accomodate shabbos, Uinversity of Md told me that they want to hire me but cant give me off on shabbos, and Hopkins also said that. I am still waiting to hear back from a few places, but its been really really frustrating when I feel very qualified and there is supposedly a nursing shoratage out there.
So if anyone has recommendations about specific hospitals that are accomodating and how to approach the issue when talking to recruiters (I cant avoid mentioning shabbos since every single interview I have been on so far has asked me directly about fulfilling the weekend/night requirement, and I always mention how super willing I am to work every Sunday/Sat night/legal holiday) but it hasnt helped yet. Then again, I doing Hashem's will so I am sure He will help me out soon!
So, yeah, any advice would be great!!!
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Post by chanab on Jun 11, 2008 7:18:35 GMT -5
EstheRN - I know it's not what you want to hear, but have you considered looking into other areas? Peds/OB might be your goal, but until you have the experience that will give you some clout, the hospitals might not hire you without being able to work Shabbos. I just accepted a job at a VA clinic b/c I couldn't take any of the hospital jobs I interviewed for. It's not where I thought/hoped/ever imagined I would end up, but I'm pretty happy to have a job and I figure I can try again at floor nursing in a couple of years when I have the experience. If you think the issues with the hospitals is an illegal or discriminatory hiring policy you could also try contacting your local EEOC.
In addition to my previous question - has anyone managed to land the job/unit they wanted for their first job out of nursing school and NOT had an issue with Shabbos?
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Post by Rivka P on Jun 11, 2008 12:39:25 GMT -5
Chana. I don't know if this is the news you would like to hear, but if it's not inpatient, acute care experience, I don't know how much the hospitals will count it for. Which sort of seems to be my problem with getting into pediatrics (as esthern would like to do) because I now have experience, and thought getting a job in peds would be easier, but I don't have peds experience. Pretty much a catch 22.
Also, I did contact a lawyer, somewhat unofficially, but asked about the whole shabbos issue. Pretty much, since working on shabbos is part of the job requirement, they are at liberty to refuse to hire you on that point: you cannot fulfill the job requirement. It seems that a 9-5, M-F job who discriminates about shabbos would be violating a law, but a hospital, which is a 24/7 operation, is not.
I am also in a job that I would never have thought/hoped/imagined I would be in. One of the reasons I was compelled to start this group. Do you think a speech from a lawyer about our rights and discrimination laws would be beneficial?
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Post by chanab on Jun 15, 2008 1:30:58 GMT -5
Experience - what you get just after you need it. I'm sorry to hear about your catch 22. One would think with an international nursing shortage... As for me, I just accepted a PRN job the other day for a med/surg floor in a very rural area. Obviously it won't be the same experience as a full-time acute care job - but I'm willing to take what they'll throw my way!
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Post by Rivka P on Jun 15, 2008 9:36:09 GMT -5
oh, ok. sounds good. I was just told that once you leave the hospital setting (or never enter!) then it could be hard to get back in.
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Post by e on Jun 15, 2008 15:14:21 GMT -5
Me again, I am the very first orthodox jew to work as a nurse in my hospital so they didnt give me a problem with shabbat. However, i am afraid that october is going to be huge problem because i am pretty much going to have to request the whole month off. I always work nights. My weekends are sat, sun, mon. night. there are other nurses who request every mon. night off for family reasons and etc. so the hospital is pretty accomodating. I just hope i wont have prob. in the future. it's really difficult.
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Post by chanab on Jun 15, 2008 16:18:08 GMT -5
e - That's amazing! Good for you! I'm also nervous about the Yomim Tovim coming up. I won't have enough days saved up yet so I'm gonna end up having to take unpaid days off - blah! Maybe you can switch with other night nurses just for those few weeks?
As far as not starting in the hospital - any experience is good and helps develop nursing judgement even if its not always nursing skills. I know the school I went to is now actually offering a short brush-up course for nurses who have been out of nursing or hospital nursing - more of an incentive to get much-needed nurses back on the floor I suppose.
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Post by Rivka P on Jun 16, 2008 10:45:50 GMT -5
yeah, apparently there is a huge amount of people who are registered nurses who are not employed as nurses! hospital work is hard, man!
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Post by Rivka P on Jun 24, 2008 16:17:59 GMT -5
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