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Post by achot on Mar 17, 2009 6:14:16 GMT -5
Yes, here in Israel, all ambulance drivers are paramedics,, I am told, sorry if I didn't specify that, and yes they administer meds as per their training.
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Post by medic09 on Mar 17, 2009 9:24:16 GMT -5
Achot, I'm afraid you are mistaken. I think you may not know what a paramedic does.
A stam nehag ambulance/ambulance driver in MDA is a basic EMT, with just a few additional skills (such as starting IVs) more than an EMT in the US.
A paramedic is, as I described, another level of professional with advance assessment skills who does a field diagnosis, and initiates some pretty serious care; most noticeably complete ACLS care (drugs, electricity, the works). Although not required, many paramedics in Israel have a BS as paramedics, similar to a BSN. That is why there is an increasing number of graduates who are Paramedic/RN.
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Post by samg on Mar 17, 2009 10:58:41 GMT -5
Achot, I most definately do not think that LPNs and RNs are the same. I understand the difference, and I understand that no matter what level of my training/career I am at, I am accountable for my actions. Do not mistake my student nurse status for youth or inexperience. I am neither. I actually have a lot of exposure and involvement in the medical field prior to my schooling. I am simply saying that everybody has to make the educational and career choice that is right for them. They can do this by knowing what their school, state and employer's policies are. Since these all vary from state to state and country to country, it is important not to let our own experiences or values mislead someone else who is working on their own path. I find that sometimes your experiences (not in the U.S.) and and your years of practice come out on this forum as off-putting. Perhaps they could be directed to student nurses in a more supportive manner. Oh, and by the way- the DON at the SNF where I am at now is an LPN and she is outstanding. It just all depends...
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Post by achot on Mar 17, 2009 12:25:55 GMT -5
Achot, I'm afraid you are mistaken. I think you may not know what a paramedic does. A stam nehag ambulance/ambulance driver in MDA is a basic EMT, with just a few additional skills (such as starting IVs) more than an EMT in the US. A paramedic is, as I described, another level of professional with advance assessment skills who does a field diagnosis, and initiates some pretty serious care; most noticeably complete ACLS care (drugs, electricity, the works). Although not required, many paramedics in Israel have a BS as paramedics, similar to a BSN. That is why there is an increasing number of graduates who are Paramedic/RN. You might be right i was going on the info from my kids who volunteer on the ambulances in Jerusalem . They claim that they go out with drivers who are paramedics, maybe they are given bad info as well. BUT THAT WASN"T MY POINT!!! My point was just that giving IV push meds can be done by a lay person and the scope of an RN is way more than just the IV meds s/he gives etc. I used it as an example, as my kids do "scary stuff" that LPN's are not licensed for ...
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Post by achot on Mar 17, 2009 12:34:06 GMT -5
Achot, I find that sometimes your experiences (not in the U.S.) and and your years of practice come out on this forum as off-putting. Perhaps they could be directed to student nurses in a more supportive manner. Oh, and by the way- the DON at the SNF where I am at now is an LPN and she is outstanding. It just all depends... I reread what I wrote and I apologize if you found it offputting, never intended to be that way, perhaps you misunderstand. I thought I was being supportive by encouraging you to go all the way and get your RN. I still stand by that, I am sure you will make a terrific nurse, and hope you pick your battles because we are all in this together, we all have to work together or it will all fall apart. There is a place for both LPN's and RN's on the field, BTW, I am glad you love your DON, what did I write that said that she shouldn't be terrific??? As I wrote, there are good and bad everywhere. But the scope of practice by an Rn and by an LPN are different. Truth be told, I would prefer to see the DON position in a LTC/SNF facility filled by an RN- again - my humble opinion. I am glad your DON is doing such a terrific job as that is in the pts best interest- and that is all we should be concerned about!! All the best, A
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Post by nativemom on May 26, 2009 22:56:34 GMT -5
I'm fairly new to this board but I thought I'd say hi. I'm currently in a BSN program (FINALLY-I've been in school for a bout 8 years now? I could have an MD at this point....) I have a 2 almost 3 year old son and my husband works out of town 4 days a week so most of the time I feel like a single mom Things have been pretty tough. I'm finishing up a research class and than I have the rest of the summer off but I'm really nervous about starting in the fall. I have clinicals and other classes and I'm already feeling overwhelmed. For those of you who had families while you were in nursing school: how did you do it? I feel so bad, I want to spend time with my son but i get so overwhelmed with the work and studying. I find time to study here and there but sometimes that's all I want to do because I have exams or papers due...
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Post by Rivka P on May 26, 2009 23:33:05 GMT -5
when my mom was in school and we were young, my father used to get us out of the house at all costs on the weekend, so my mom could get work and studying done.
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Post by achot on May 27, 2009 0:01:21 GMT -5
Nativemom, It sounds like your plate is full and you lack the daily support of your hubby, ( do you have other family support around?) You take care of the home and juggle school responsibilities as well. 2 yr olds are a handful. You are in the middle of a tsunami at the moment. You need as much help as you can afford or can be creative enough to find. Take short cuts, close your eyes to the housework- get rid of those white gloves, forget the ironing and ask your Mother in law to meet you at a restaurant or park when she visits (figuratively if you understand me) You are finishing an important project and that is one of your priorities. But you are heading for the home stretch and its important that you keep the future in sight and not look at the past. I used to find a group of friends for my kids and we took turns watching each others- one day I took the bunch (up to 5 at a time- more is not safe) then 4 other days they took turns and gave me a break. I knew my precious one was i the hands of another loving mother and in the company of good friends. We were committed to helping each other and that helped share the burden. Life will get easier (and harder), keep a positive attitude with a great sense of humor- let things roll off you, and your load will be lighter. When you can , schedule a vacation ( even if it is short) with your husband, its important that you have a strong marriage.
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